recently I had a conversation about the nature of the universe and our place as human beings in it with a cousin of mine. She brought up very good points that I have been responding to. I would like to at this time state plainly what it is I am putting out there for debate or consideration. My thoughts were summed up quite well in an interview with one of the investigative journalist I have been following for some time. The interview was conducted by a new website called the unexplained that comes from the UK. What was compelling to me was the last sentence Linda Moulton Howe said in this interview. It's about an hour long I hope I can link to it on my blog this is the first time I'm doing this so bare with me if it doesn't work. In essence my point is this;
1) Anyone who believes were alone in the unverse has to be living under a rock.
2) That being that will some day show itself to us will have something to say about the universe
3) That being whatever it is must bow the knee to Jesus Christ
4) If we are not careful that which we may bow the knee to may not be our creator
I downloaded the interview hopefully you can hear it here. If you want fastforward to the end and hear for yourself what Linda said. I recommend of course you hear the whole inteview it sets the stage for her final point. As far as I'm aware she claims no religious affiliation. But her point is in fact religous. http://www.theunexplained.tv/listen.html
You know I find this discussion interesting. We talk all the time about other beings out there, and a lot of Christians dismiss the concept because they think if it were true then it would be something that operates outside of their known realm of God. But we always thought that assuming there is a God, then He would be over everything, other beings included. But here's a question for you -- how do you know that God didn't send a messenger to these other beings, to take the shape and form of these other beings, in order to show them His power? Isn't it possible that a smart God would have accounted for this difference in species, and would have given them the same chance for eternal survival? Thus, how can you demand that other beings, assuming they exist, must 'bow at the knee' of our messiah when they may very well have their own God-sent Messiah?
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Endless Blessings ... Love and Light My Dear Cousin....
ReplyDeleteThe purpose of planet earth is to give Human Souls the opportunity to live in physical bodies and by means of this process awaken their Soul to higher levels of awareness... The ultimate state of this type of human awareness is the Christ Consciousness or Buddhahood.... This is the highest state of awareness possible for human beings.... To raise over 10 billions Human Souls to this level is the task of many Co-Creators or Higher Entities... They are in charge over this planet and its population.... It is an enormous task and it takes a very long time. Planet earth is a classroom and we stay in this 3D classroom until we have graduated to higher densities... We are also able to incarnate from these higher densities onto earth again.... This means that our education in "how to consciously create in a 3D reality" is continued. To consciously create is our ultimate goal...
All this means, that we live many lifetimes in human bodies in order to awaken the Soul or God within to the Christ Consciousness level... Meanwhile, not all Universal Life goes through this biological process of Realization however... There are other processes of gaining awareness and wisdom... I do not know much about these other processes and as a matter of fact I do not know nearly enough about our own biological path.... One of the crucial points of knowing is arriving at the conclusion of who or what we really are.... We are the Creative Energy, or God, or TIL in human form... TIL is The Infinite Light! That's what we really are... There is no difference between us and the Infinite Light. We are It... or at least an aspect of TIL expressed within this Density within the Dream of TIL.... All religion is man made and although useful in teaching young souls all are filled with contradictions .... were this not so we would never transcend them... We all create our own perceptions depending on our beliefs and our lifetime of conditioning... Once we know who or what we really are, all Teachings become Stories and all Stories become Teachings!
That is the point where our true education begins... The Infinite Light is not a Lutheran, a Hindu or a Presbyterian.... We are the Essence of the universe in pursuit of Christness.... It means Awakening to Ourselves! This can be done without becoming a follower of a religion or teaching.... We are our own Student and Teacher and always will be.... In order to learn what Life in 3D is all about, we are subjected to a Game or Play upon this Earth.... The Play is created by the Co-Creators, which we ourselves are at a higher level.... Many of these Co-Creators are graduated Human Souls - the Masters!
Understand you can believe my opinions or not ... in the end it really doesn't matter what we know or think we know ... the only thing that matters is that we Love all sentient beings and accept the lessons of this density ... Namaste
Barbara
less Blessings ...Love and Light ... My Dear Cousin.... The entire world and its scenarios of wars, famine and whatever we see around us for thousands of years is a conscious creation by the Rulers or the Illuminati... Naturally they include the Religions, the World Bank and the ruling Politicians of all major countries...the entire scene on earth is a "perfect conscious creation" by the few to create a scenario that is experienced by the many.... They follow what they see as their own thoughts and ideas while in actuality they are inspired or brainwashed into what they say and do... That is what 3D is all about.... To awaken to what is, means to escape from the 3D conditioning, brainwashing, its prison and its tortures..... All this sound pretty cruel naturally, but we need to understand that the Creator within all human beings is totally unconscious and needs to be awakened by forceful measures sometimes.... This is the way things are...All the situations we meet in the world are created on purpose.... Nothing is just by accident or coincidence.... The entire world is exactly as it should be.... There are no mistakes, no accidents or coincidences ... There is a plan and it is ours but most of us have forgotten what's next.... The entire world is like a Thousand Ring Circus and pretty soon most people think that it all just happens.... Nothing happens by itself - there is a plan and it will be experienced to the minute detail.... There are thousands of Ring-Masters and they work 24 hours per day in a no time zone.... The best and the worst is still to come....As our Sacred Mother Earth is vibrating at the highest point in 3d ... preparing to Ascend... A great part of Humanity is on its way to reach a collective awareness..... This is what the higher densities are all about.... It means that we seemingly will still live in our ordinary human bodies on this world, but we will find that all of a sudden we are more aware, more psychic, more understanding, more loving and more connected to others.... We discover this on our way to work so to speak.... All of a sudden the Light goes on. Eventually we will have reached a Humanity-Consciousness instead of an individual human consciousness or awareness....
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Barbara
Angela, excellent comment. The Mormon belief system believes or teaches such possibilities. Here's a quote from the bible, Gen 14:18 Then Melchizedek king of Salem brought out bread and wine. He was priest of God Most High, and again in Hebrews 5:10 and was designated by God to be high priest in the order of Melchizedek.(He's speaking of Jesus Christ here). So maybe you have something there, that possibly other beings in other parts of the universe have their own Messiahs. Can we say the same may be possible for our other Gods or men of wisdom on our Earth like the Buddah, Confucius, Mohammed and so on and so on? If maybe that is the case that an alien being were to say I also come in the order of Melchizedeck and that this being is one with God maybe the fourth person of the trinity with the Holy Ghost being the 5th person of the trinity it's possible I guess I never thought of it in this way. What is essential in my view is the philosophical problem of the universe (the one and the many)is answered in the doctrine of the trinity. All other religions fall into platonic or Aristotelian thought which cannot solve this problem because they fall into rationalism or irrational-ism. By the way Angela and all of you reading and following this thread I am not and do not intend to prostylize anyone over to my religion. My sole intention here is to open my thoughts of Theology and Philosophy so that I may have different perspectives to ponder and test against my own belief system thanks for joining in
ReplyDeleteThe purpose of planet earth is to give Human Souls the opportunity to live in physical bodies and by means of this process awaken their Soul to higher levels of awareness... The ultimate state of this type of human awareness is the Christ Consciousness or Buddhahood.... This is the highest state of awareness possible for human beings.... Did you happen to read that essay by Van Til? Christ consciousness or Buddhahood... Christs claims do not coincide with the Buddha as far as I understand the teachings of Buddha at least. That's whats so compelling to me. Christ claims for himself things no other human scriptures claim. And in my view or opinion philosophically it answers the question of the all time "which is ultimate the one or the many?" In the doctrine of the trinity we see 3 persons in one 1 in 3 persons and all are ultimate. In more precise terms, The God of Christianity claims not to be part of the universe or one with the unieverse but rather the creator of the universe The Christian God didn't exist in the stuff of the universe. Philosophical and religious thought outside of Christianity make no such claims. This is compelling to me, philosophically I mean
ReplyDeleteIt's just not that simple although I believe the problem of the universe is solved by the holy trinity, I pause in light of scientific data on quantum physics. Now sometimes or most times in order to understand things I have to put it in cartoon terms or simple terms, basic terms. Forgive me if it's too elementary for some of you. I don't claim to be smart or highly educated, just inquisitive thats all. So here is a video I found that helps me understand quantum physics. Here it makes sense what Barbara and my son and law Marshel say about the universe all being part of one and more to the point that we are a consciousness that effects our world just by our "being" Here's the link; http://www.metacafe.com/watch/4096579/dr_quantum_double_slit_experiment_entanglement/
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